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  North Korea official photos

  by neat blue dog in

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  official government photos:.

  hmmm.

  any thoughts?

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  amiable atheist

  Oh, nice. Photos from the Pyongyang national convention of JW.

  I am going to send this to my JW parents. As to whether they'll get the joke, I have severe doubts...
  
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  shunning of those who have "left da troof"

  by resolute Bandicoot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends, .

  can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.

  jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.

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  amiable atheist

  I just remembered this post from about 3 months ago: "They would Stone us if the law would allow"
  by ElderEtta, where Paul Grundy (author of jwfacts.com) had dug up this gem of Watchtower:

  "Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God's law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof. Satan's influence through the disfellowshiped member of the family will be to cause the other member or members of the family who are in the truth to join the disfellowshiped member in his course or in his position toward God's organization. To do this would be disastrous, and so the faithful family member must recognize and conform to the disfellowship order. How would or could this be done while living under the same roof or in personal, physical contact daily with the disfellowshiped? In this way: By refusing to have religious relationship with the disfellowshiped." Watchtower1952 Nov 15 p.703
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  shunning of those who have "left da troof"

  by resolute Bandicoot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends, .

  can somebody please help me locate a recent thread that dealt with shunning of family members and the policy double standard, e.g.

  jw.borg explanation that the family relationship is unchanged and the recent daily text that suggested that we should shun them.. tried searching but could not find it.. thanks rb.

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  amiable atheist

  Examining the Scriptures Daily -- Download link:
  

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/Examining-the-Scriptures-Daily-2019/#?insight[search_id]=a721743e-0d1f-46e9-a9ec-5ef5ab6c7a39&insight[search_result_index]=0
  

  "Monday, January 14
  Discipline . . . is painful.
  —Heb. 12:11.
  Despite our pain of heart, we must
  avoid normal contact with a dis-
  fellowshipped family member by
  telephone, text messages, letters,
  e-mails, or social media. Yet, main-
  tain hope. Love “hopes all things,”
  including that those who have left
  Jehovah will come back to him.
  (1 Cor. 13:7) If you see evidence
  that a close family member is hav-
  ing a change of heart, you could pray
  that he or she gain strength from
  the Scriptures and respond to Jeho-
  vah’s appeal: “Return to me.” (Isa.
  44:22) Jesus said that if we were to
  put any human before him, we would
  not be worthy of him. Yet, he was
  confident that his disciples would
  have the courage to maintain their
  loyalty to him despite family opposi-
  tion. If following Jesus has brought
  “a sword” into your family, rely on
  Jehovah to help you deal with the
  challenges successfully. (Isa. 41:10,
  13) Find joy in knowing that Jeho-
  vah and Jesus are pleased with you
  and that they will reward your faith-
  ful course. w17.10 16 ̊19-21"

  This refers to Watchtower 2017, October, Study edition P.16, par. 19:

  "19 Respect the discipline of Jehovah. His
  arrangement can bring the best long-
  term outcome for all, including the
  wrongdoer, even though the immedi-
  ate effect is painful. (Read Hebrews
  12:11.) For example, Jehovah instructs
  us to “stop keeping company” with un-
  repentant wrongdoers. (1 Cor. 5:11-13)
  Despite our pain of heart, we must
  avoid normal contact with a disfellow-
  shipped family member by telephone,
  text messages, letters, e-mails, or social
  media."
  

  BUT: Clip from the Supreme Court of Canada Case on November 2, 2017 involving the Jehovah's Witness Organization vs. Randy Wall. What the WT-Org lawyer says is an utter lie. Watch this:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w867kyTyE2I
  
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  “Millions now living will never die”

  by HappyBlessedFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.

  yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.

  since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.

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  amiable atheist

  @Tiana - It's just business as usual: The big A has always been, and will always be, immediately behind the next overlapping corner.
  
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  Maybe it could be worse...

  by Olig in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i just watched a documentary on netflix called "the end of the world cult" about some geezer named wayne bent (self proclaimed as michael travesser).

  some of the stuff this guy says is absolutely unbelievable, and made me seriously think that there are some god awful cults out there, and made me think my time in the jw's (however boring and restrictive) wasn't all so bad... has anyone else seen this?

  does anyone have any recommendations on other documentaries of the like??

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  amiable atheist

  @Olig "Does anyone have any recommendations on other documentaries of the like??"

  This is about "The Buddhafield"-Cult -- by an ex-member
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_1ZuQKf4U
  
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  More Watchtower Property For Sale!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

  looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

  https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

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  amiable atheist

  Kim & Mikey said, it's an assembly hall.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCwjlzPiya4

  "Another one bites the dust!"
  
  
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  Another Look at Winning the Battle for Your Mind, Be determined to stick to Jehovah’s organization and loyally support the leadership

  by Fabian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  leadership noun.

  definition of leadership.

  1 : the office or position of a leader.

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  amiable atheist

  Tobyjones262

  Yup, the same kind of word game they play with the nebulous distinction between "being inspired" and "spirit guided".

  steve2

  "I'm still waiting for the GB to officially state that theirs is a leaderspiritless organization...I won't hold my breath."
  
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  Part II: it's time

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  earlier i posted about the call from close family about that the end is expected in very short time.. today i had the opportunity to speak in person.. this is what is told to me:.

  - the gb speaks to us personality through broadcasting;.

  - the annual meeting was a very clear message from the gb;.

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  amiable atheist

  Blind faith in blind leaders is a great recipe for personal disaster.

  "We are roving about." Gerrit Lösch (GB)
  
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  Aussie Bush Humour - Do not listen if U cling to christian values.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if your not worried about jw moral standards you may like to hear this verse, about the dangers posed by some makes of plastic chairs to manly men.. https://www.facebook.com/groups/818023414953244/permalink/1667787039976873/.

  dont forget to turn the sound on!.

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  amiable atheist

  The notorious JW-apologist will take this poem as proof that women cannot be entrusted with the task of responsible chair design.

  It's "The Terrifying But Tragically True Tale of Trevor's Trapped Testicle". Just an incident of bad luck. Nothing to invoke Christian values and morals about. In the end all is well, no lasting harm is done. So, rest assured:

  Moderate clapping and expressions of joy permitted.
  

  P.S.: Even a pair of Tight Pants would have served as a sensible precaution.
  
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  Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so much is said regarding men , in a negative way.

  shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.

  men should be less masculine.

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  amiable atheist

  It's all about appreciating the difference between having a dick versus being a dick.